by Richard L. Thornton, Architect & City Planner
One Soque band became the ancestors of the Snowbird Cherokees, while the majority of Soque either intermarried with immigrants from the Old World and stayed in Northeast Georgia or migrated elsewhere. Qualla Cherokees call the Snowbird Cherokees, “Moon Faces.”
The migrating Soque either moved to the region around Auburn, Alabama or to southern Florida. Their descendants in Oklahoma are members of the Thlopthlocco Creek Tribal Town. Members of the Miccosukee Tribe in South Florida are descendants of Soque, who intermarried with Mayas, who came to Florida during the Early Colonial Period.
According to the Soque Migration Legend, they were the last Mesoamerican people to arrive in the Southeast. Their ancestors left western Tabasco because of repeated attacks by Nahua peoples, such as the Mexica (Aztecs), to obtain children to literally eat. They traveled by land along the edge of the Gulf of Mexico then went up the Chattahoochee River Valley to its source, where their close allies in Mesoamerica, the Itza and Cho’ite Mayas lived.
At the time Charleston, SC was settled in 1670, the Soque occupied a large province in NE Georgia . . . from the Soquehatchee River (Broad River) northward to approximately the North Carolina line.
The young Soque lady on the left was a college graduate, who was Mistress of Ceremonies for a traditional dance competition in western Tabasco. The elderly Soque lady on the right was standing outside my bus window, when I was traveling from Villahermosa, Tabasco to Palenque, Chiapas.
Don’t you love my old color slides from the fellowship in Mexico? You can thank the Atlanta Archaeological Society! My faculty advisor at Georgia Tech, Ike Saporta, was also President of the Atlanta Archaeological Society. The AAS gave me enough bulk film to make almost 2,500 color slides. Ike gave me instructions to document the indigenous cultures of Mexico, not just the ancient buildings.
The Soque (Zoque) and Mixtecs of southern Mexico are descended from seafaring peoples, who settled on the lower Gulf Coast of Mexico during the period between 1700 BC and 800 BC. These newcomers came to dominate long time residents, who happened to be master farmers, but not into constructing large towns. This alliance created the so-called Olmec Civilization.
What television and Youtube documentaries (except mine) do not tell you is that these people did not make pottery or construct earthen pyramids until around 900 BC . . . over 2000 years after such things appeared in Georgia.
What about the indigenous men in Tabasco and Georgia?
There is a major inherited trait among the Tabasco Mayas/Soque, Creek Peoples, Snowbird Cherokees and Valley Cherokees that cannot be found among most races. The men look very different than the women. Both among the Eastern Creeks and Snowbird Cherokees, the men tend to have very tall, heavy-boned physiques like Polynesian men and skulls that continue to grow into their mid-30s.
The surgeon, who patched me up after my former wife poisoned me, was also the team surgeon for the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. He had an undergraduate degree in Forensic Anthropology. He asked me if I played football for Georgia Tech. I said, “No, they wouldn’t give me a grant-in-aid, if I enrolled in Architecture, because our classes lasted till 6 PM each day. “
He was astonished with the proportions of my skeleton. He told me that the ratios of bone lengths and diameters were far closer to that of a Neanderthal than a modern human. He also noticed the bony protrusion on the back of my skull like Neanderthals and Denisovans had. Here in Georgia, we call it a Creek knot. Perhaps, the Creeks are partially descended from Denisovans.

Georgia (Eastern) Creek women typically have heart-shaped heads, pronounced cheek bones, large lips and protruding chins. They are typically 5′-6″ (167 cm) to 5′-8″ (173 cm). Unlike almost all other indigenous women in United States, they tend to keep their gracile figures throughout life.

Like myself, the young lady on the right is a direct descendant of Mako (Mikko in Muskogee) Tallassee Corn. Her mother is a full blood, Seminole from Florida, so she has a darker complexion than the Middle Georgia mixed-blood, Creek gal on the left. Notice how much, she resembles Tallassee Corn. He was the leader of a Itsate Creek province where Athens, GA is today. That protruding chin is also found on statues made at Etula (Etowah Mounds) over a thousand years ago, as seen below.

Also, in contrast to most indigenous North Americans, diabetes and alcoholism are almost non-existent among Eastern Creeks. However, we carry a severe intolerance to wheat products and chemical additives to food. Wheat poisoning can be lethal to Eastern Creek women. If they ate white bread much as children and young adults, they must invariably have their gall bladders removed by age 30-35, and by age 65 may have half their colon removed.
Whole wheat bread contains a substance, which neutralizes the toxicity of celiac to Eastern Creeks. Fortunately, I began eating only whole wheat bread, while working in Sweden and have continued that practice to this day. Most of my carbohydrate intake is from sweet potatoes, winter squash, nuts, brown rice and corn products.
My French soulmate, Vivi, was one fourth Tamulte Maya. I now realize that at age 27, when I first met her, she looked very similar to my mother at age 27. Both Vivi and I have the large, Southern Mesoamerican lips. Most Frenchmen have thin lips. When we first met in Alexandria, VA, Vivi was all excited because she had finally found a man with compatible lips. LOL
Vivi has also maintained that gracile physique without an conscious effort to “diet.” It must be a trait of the branches of the Mayas in Tabasco and Chiapas. Now . . . prior to meeting me, Vivi starved herself in order to continue playing 18-19 year old college girls in French movies. However, she quit the entertainment industry and spent a summer on my farm . . . growing most of the vegetables and protein that we ate and eating lots of goat cheese. After returning to France, she bought an old farm in Champagne-Ardennes and has continued that healthy lifestyle to this day.
As always a very interesting post Richard. I think that the Eastern Creek women are beautiful.
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Thank you! My mother certainly was . . . and she grew up hoeing farm fields like a common laborer. My sister and female cousins still are.
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